The Carmichael-Moenkhaus Society for the Appropriation of Hoosier Folklore

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Comment by Barbara Wascher on April 6, 2010 at 10:02am

On the Monk front, an omnibus edition of Eddie Campbell's autobiographical comics was released in February. It's called Alec: The Years Have Pants, and yes, Campbell quotes Monk's poem in the book -- showing himself reading it from Sudhalter's bio of Hoagy, Stardust Melody. His capsule interpretation of Monk's opus? "It means: It's all baloney but don't worry, we'll all be dying soon anyhoo."

Comment by Barbara Wascher on April 6, 2010 at 9:53am

Here's a great cover of Hoagy's "I Get Along Without You Very Well (Except Sometimes)":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8jQAM8JIz4

The imagery in this video makes me strongly suspect that the artist knows the Hoagy & Bix story. It really has a "meadows of my heart" feel to it. And the cover itself is an interesting re-imagining of the melody, something Hoagy did a lot, especially with "Stardust."

Comment by Michael Eugene Henry on February 11, 2010 at 4:35am

Don't everyone jump in at once.
Interesting points to consider: Check out William W. Warren's "History of the Ojibway People" A Chippewa (as whitey called them) was educated in white schools and then writes this book. It compares the Old Testament to Ojibway traditions and there are many parallels in cultural traditions and religious thought. The Ojibway lived in Indiana.
The Pottawatomie (native to northern Indiana when the white man came) were called "The Keepers of the Fire" (there's a book by the same name about them) does that ring a bell with any Jewish/West African/Roman theologians out there? It pertains to burial traditions where every once in a while the associated bands would gather their dead (regardless of state of decay), pack them up and bring them all to a central location. Ceremonies were held in reverence, gifts given, then they were burned. This differs from paleoindian practices (apparently world wide) of anointing with ochre. Natives of the midwest generally ended up burying the dead wrapped in treebark.

Comment by Michael Eugene Henry on February 8, 2010 at 11:46pm

Oh and he ended up dynamiting the entrance to the cave. Bummer. Enough scholars became convinced it was real enough that there has been ongoing research. He apparently let the river in when he blasted it, though making real excavation next to impossible.

Comment by Michael Eugene Henry on February 8, 2010 at 11:43pm

Hey,
I read in a Jstore article years ago, that the stones were actually made out of clay, or a clay/mud mix. A laboratory confirmed they were at least a thousand years old due to a crystal that had grown in the stone's matrix. I have the article (paper) somewhere. I no longer have access to scholarly search engines but that doesn't usually stop me. I will post details as they become available.

Comment by Michael Eugene Henry on February 8, 2010 at 11:30pm

Hey all,
Here's something I posted to Whybark's page http://www.ancientamerican.com/article30p1.htm I sent one like it to a couple of the peeps on the ben ishmael thread. It seems the African, Jewish, Christian influence in Indiana may be 2000 years old. Quick recap- A west african leader Ptolemy the xv was murdered by Caligula (the crazy roman emperor) and his hometown went nuts in revolt. The place had been a mix of many cultures and many religions practiced freely under their beloved leader Juba. When the next Roman emperor Claudius took power, the roman's were broke. Since Juba's country was in revolt the Roman's decided to make an example of them and raid their coffers. Didn't happen. They loaded up the boats and headed west. They went up the Mississippi and ended up in southern Illinois. A local treasure hunter fell into the burial cave and over the years brought out gold coins and many inscribed stone depicting the sailors and royalty and everyone else who had fled.

Comment by mike whybark on October 16, 2009 at 9:18pm

Just reread the Hoagy pic thread, wow, that was some great stuff, all in a couple days! And like a year and a half ago!

Comment by DBJ on January 27, 2009 at 1:03pm

Have you guys checked out the Hoagy collection online?

Hoagy digital

They haven't digitized much audio yet, however. They have some really cool stuff--Tom Roznowski dipped into it for his WFIU Hoagy special a few years back, as did WFHB when they did their Hoagy-thon. They let me borrow a 1939 radio broadcast last year for Afterglow, in which Hoagy plays with the Tommy Dorsey band up at the Circle Theater in Indianapolis, and Hoagy's mom sits in for a version of "Maple Leaf Rag."

Comment by mike whybark on January 27, 2009 at 12:57am

nope, diff book for sure, david, but that one sounds pretty interesting. I think I was looking at two books at my folks' house, both IUP pubs, one from the 30s or 40s and one from the 70s.

Comment by DBJ on January 27, 2009 at 12:02am

Mike W mentioned a Hoosier folklore book in the original Hoagy-photo thread--not sure if it's the same, but one worth checking out is the WPA/Federal Writers' Project Hoosier Tall Stories, published in 1939. There used to be a copy on the shelf at the IU Main Library. (And anybody interested in the Federal Writers' Project in Indiana should definitely check out George T. Blakey's Creating a Hoosier Self-Portrait.)

On Gennett: Jelly Roll, Bix and Hoagy.

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