The Carmichael-Moenkhaus Society for the Appropriation of Hoosier Folklore

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Comment by Michael Eugene Henry 19 hours ago

Oh and he ended up dynamiting the entrance to the cave. Bummer. Enough scholars became convinced it was real enough that there has been ongoing research. He apparently let the river in when he blasted it, though making real excavation next to impossible.

Comment by Michael Eugene Henry 20 hours ago

Hey,
I read in a Jstore article years ago, that the stones were actually made out of clay, or a clay/mud mix. A laboratory confirmed they were at least a thousand years old due to a crystal that had grown in the stone's matrix. I have the article (paper) somewhere. I no longer have access to scholarly search engines but that doesn't usually stop me. I will post details as they become available.

Comment by Michael Eugene Henry 20 hours ago

Hey all,
Here's something I posted to Whybark's page http://www.ancientamerican.com/article30p1.htm I sent one like it to a couple of the peeps on the ben ishmael thread. It seems the African, Jewish, Christian influence in Indiana may be 2000 years old. Quick recap- A west african leader Ptolemy the xv was murdered by Caligula (the crazy roman emperor) and his hometown went nuts in revolt. The place had been a mix of many cultures and many religions practiced freely under their beloved leader Juba. When the next Roman emperor Claudius took power, the roman's were broke. Since Juba's country was in revolt the Roman's decided to make an example of them and raid their coffers. Didn't happen. They loaded up the boats and headed west. They went up the Mississippi and ended up in southern Illinois. A local treasure hunter fell into the burial cave and over the years brought out gold coins and many inscribed stone depicting the sailors and royalty and everyone else who had fled.

Comment by mike whybark on October 16, 2009 at 9:18pm

Just reread the Hoagy pic thread, wow, that was some great stuff, all in a couple days! And like a year and a half ago!

Comment by DBJ on January 27, 2009 at 1:03pm

Have you guys checked out the Hoagy collection online?

Hoagy digital

They haven't digitized much audio yet, however. They have some really cool stuff--Tom Roznowski dipped into it for his WFIU Hoagy special a few years back, as did WFHB when they did their Hoagy-thon. They let me borrow a 1939 radio broadcast last year for Afterglow, in which Hoagy plays with the Tommy Dorsey band up at the Circle Theater in Indianapolis, and Hoagy's mom sits in for a version of "Maple Leaf Rag."

Comment by mike whybark on January 27, 2009 at 12:57am

nope, diff book for sure, david, but that one sounds pretty interesting. I think I was looking at two books at my folks' house, both IUP pubs, one from the 30s or 40s and one from the 70s.

Comment by DBJ on January 27, 2009 at 12:02am

Mike W mentioned a Hoosier folklore book in the original Hoagy-photo thread--not sure if it's the same, but one worth checking out is the WPA/Federal Writers' Project Hoosier Tall Stories, published in 1939. There used to be a copy on the shelf at the IU Main Library. (And anybody interested in the Federal Writers' Project in Indiana should definitely check out George T. Blakey's Creating a Hoosier Self-Portrait.)

On Gennett: Jelly Roll, Bix and Hoagy.

Comment by Eric Kinsey on January 20, 2009 at 12:28am

I'm late to this discussion but here's a few thoughts.

There was/is a Speed Records comp out about 10 years ago called "Hillbillies On Speed" featuring artists like Fountain Square's own Lattie Moore. I don't own it but here is the label code, Redita RLP 116.

As far as I know Indiana had LOTS of Rockabilly! Bobby Helms at one point, please correct me if I am wrong, played with Hank Williams's The Drifting Cowboys/Cherokee Cowboys after they were fired by Ray Price. Most of his early hits were recorded in Bloomington at a local radio station. He later recorded many of his hits at the legendary Quonset Hut in Nashville with various members of the Drifting Cowboys and the A-team/Owen Bradley session legends. Viz, 'Hangin' Round', 'Tennesee Rock n Roll', 'Freedom Lovin' Guy', etc. There were many other great early Indiana rockabillies like Boyd Bennett and The Rockets, Keetie and The Kats, Lattie Moore, Ronnie Haig, Art Adams, Tommy Lam, etc. Also, the very wild "Flyin Saucers Rock n Roll" recorded by Billy Lee Riley and the Little Green Men on Sun was written by Indiana native Ray Scott. Scott also recorded the minor hit "Boppin Wig-Wam Willie".

Comment by DBJ on December 24, 2008 at 1:11am

Don't know if this is of direct interest to the group or not, but it's a website I kind of dig--"Lost Indiana":

http://www.lostindiana.net/index.html

Strangely enough, I don't think there's anything there about the Lost River--which really fascinated me as a kid (my grandmother grew up in French Lick/West Baden of the 1920s and used to tell me stories about the hotel, Lost River, etc.).

Comment by Jbarge on August 3, 2008 at 2:39pm

Hey I was searching for a couintry musician from bloomington back in the eighties (little guy with a mustache and acne who used to play at the Union Jack - he also made a Live From Bloomington sampler at one point - help!) when I came across this about Bobby Helms:
Surprisingly good stuff. I would not have thought that the man known primarily for the pop hits My Special Angel and Jingle Bell Rock would have recorded enough good material to justify a 62 cut double CD reissue, but, thanks to his solid country roots, he does. In fact, much of his output compares favorably with other Decca country artists from the same era. And the folks at Bear Family have wisely put his most country-flavored numbers on the first disc and his most pop-sounding cuts on the other. The country disc even includes his little-known first two records, made for the tiny Speed record label of Bloomington, Indiana in 1955. Helms' hits are here, of course, as well as Tennessee Rock 'n Roll, Far Away Heart, Sad-Eyed Baby, two versions of Just A Little Lonesome, one in a country vein and one in a pop vein, and others. The first disc is, not surprisingly, the stronger of the two, but even the second disc has its good moments. And everything else about this package is up to Bear Family's normal high standards. Excellent sound and notes. (DH)
Anybody know about the Speed Label from Bloomington?

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