#1....WHY BLOOMINGTON ? (1986 & the first crossing of paths with Simon Trolley)

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Comment by Andy "The Brit" on February 15, 2009 at 1:17pm

Yeah i remember you (Simon) taking home Banks`s beer in "carry out" containers when you came to stop at my parents. The first pint you ever saw,you stared at it for 10mins before touching it as you had only seen a "head" on beer before in the shape of Guinness ! (Should have had that in the Blog i guess!)
The crust scene was in full swing by then along with the "crossover" scene. Weird times,our scene had got less violent than London,once Digbeth Civic Hall had gone.
Oh i still have the video stuff you done Simon,that 30min Punk comp you had put together for you & the 3hrs of the "all dayer" in Birmingham of Toxic Reasons/HDQ/Bad Dress Sence/KGB/Doom etc
If i remember right,my Mom & Dad had a menu for you to pick from,they always gave people a choice of food Ha,Ha,Ha!

Comment by Stephen Lee Canner on February 15, 2009 at 1:02pm

That's "slops" thing supposedly existed in the 19th century in the American frontier west. Amazing that it still existed in the UK that late. I guess it's more proof that early punk really was a sort of "frontier", eh?

Comment by Simon Trolley on February 15, 2009 at 12:43pm

I'm still laughing !! Shirt lifter ?!?! I was smiling at you 'cause in this sea of crusties, dread locks, and dogs on strings, there is Andy wearing a bandana round his head, lumber jack shirt tied round his waist, ripped blue jeans, and a bunch of american bands/Leeds football logos tattooed on his arms. At the time, I'd say only a small crew of people were really listening to American punk, with a few bands like The Stupids and Bad Dress Sense, openly copying it. Hanging on the wall of the gig Andy is talking about, was a giant Antisect banner, left up from the night before. Crust was in full swing, and a few months later Napalm Death's "Scum" LP would be released. I used to hitch hike from London up to the midlands, as London's punk scene was incredibly violent then. I could see the same bands up there on the Friday night, that would be playing London on the Saturday. Andy was always cool, and would let me crash on his floor, and his Mum would feed me. Then off to his local pub, before dropping me off again next to the highway. Great times. The Mermaid pub Andy talks of later, used to sell pints poured from the slop tray under the beer taps, for 50p, as a sorta "beer special" for the crustys. Keep it coming Andy. Great stuff.

Comment by Andy "The Brit" on February 4, 2009 at 1:52pm

Stephen.... Some of my friends went to see them on one of their earlier tours (i was not into them at the time) when they played Birmingham with a band called UK DECAY . Everyone said they sucked which stopped me from checking them out for some time until i found out that in fact they had equipment trouble on stage & everyone had judged them by that ! When i said "we started to get more than Black Flag,DK`s etc" i was referring to other bands like G.I.,SCREAM etc & NOT DK`s,BLACK FLAG etc. I do have footage of them playing France from 1981 so i was aware they had been before & the fact i knew people who had seen them with UK DECAY. Also as far as living in the UK,we had TOXIC REASONS doing the same thing for like 10 months where they were playing everywhere & even did a John Peel session. Thanx for the info mate,good to see people are reading....

Comment by Stephen Lee Canner on February 4, 2009 at 10:06am

Hey Andy, you mention the DKs "hitting your shores", but people forget that they actually came into their own in the UK. They were living there when their first album was released on Cherry Red (a UK label) in 1980. And indeed, I first heard of them when I was living in Germany that year, listening to John Peel on the British Forces Broadcasting Service. They went back to California after punk started getting a bit more developed in the US, well, in California at least, and then returned to the UK as this new phenom, but they had already long before paid their UK dues.

Comment by Andy "The Brit" on February 4, 2009 at 6:30am

I guess when ya hooked ya hooked,i mean we had 15+ years apart & still are into the same shit !!! Christ we even keep getting a match with our waist lines Ha,Ha.....maybe were twins separated by birth & wherever we are in the world we do the same things Ha,Ha,Ha !!! Hey we got snow just like you,weird & this is CREEPY !!!!

Comment by BURD on February 4, 2009 at 6:24am

He went back and forth if I remember correctly-he'd be at school for a year or 2 and then disappear for a year or 2---funny, because him and I always were into the same music -- even when he'd be gone he'd come back and we'd be listening to the same things. heavy metal - punk rock anyway.

Comment by Andy "The Brit" on February 4, 2009 at 6:00am

It was just that first meeting Burd,to have a spikey leather jacket haired punk keep looking at ya & then come over & talk to ya with a smile & well educated voice well..... !!! The normal first words were "Have you got 10p? " with a more hostile voice ! Here was a guy called Simon who was such a CHARMER !!!! Hey Burd,if you 2 went to the same school.....How come you don`t sound as "POSH" as Simon Ha,Ha,Ha...

Comment by BURD on February 3, 2009 at 9:44pm

I've known Simon since grammar school. Shirtlifter...hahaha.

Comment by Andy "The Brit" on February 2, 2009 at 12:06pm

I saw allot of bands at that venue,the Bad Brains played there in 1983 as back up too UK SUBS. Other bands i saw there included CRASS,CONFLICT,EXPLOITED,GBH,PETER & THE TEST TUBE BABIES,CRUCIFIX (USA),FLUX OF PINK INDIANS to name a few i can remember.....very ANGRY venue though !!

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